Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Alm. Brands Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. I will now hand the conference over to Andreas Ruben Madsen, CEO at Alm. Brand. Please go ahead.
Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Good morning. Thank you for joining us on our conference call. I’m Andreas Ruben Madsen, CEO of Alm. Bond Group. As usual, I have with me the head of our RR team, Mads Thinggaard. This morning, we published our interim report for the second quarter of ’26, and I’ll now I’ll walk through the presentation of our results.

Let’s now turn to Slide 2 and the key highlights for my first full quarter as CEO. Overall, I’m very pleased with the financial performance in Q2. We delivered a strong underlying improvement in the claims ratio, which improved by 200 basis points year-on-year. At the same time, results in Q2 were negatively impacted by a DKK 700 million one-off reserve strengthening following the Supreme Court ruling on workers’ compensation.

In Personal Lines, growth slowed a bit in the quarter as expected due to the year-on-year effects from last year’s repricing fading. However, a growth rate of above 5% during Q2 still indicates that we continue to gain market shares. In Commercial Lines, we experienced a decline in the top line, reflecting our actions to improve profitability in increasingly soft market for workers’ compensation while seeking to reduce volatility at the same time.

Adjusted for the areas we work on in this respect, which is workers’ compensation and industrial customers, the commercial portfolio reflected a premium growth of 1.0% year-on-year. Importantly, we improved the underlying claims ratio in commercial lines by 2.3 percentage points year-on-year. So overall, this reflects continued progress on profitability.

And now I’d likely to turn to Slide 3 for our financial highlights. In the table to the right, the middle column reflects our Q2 financials, excluding the impact from the Supreme Court ruling on workers’ compensation. Insurance revenue grew to DKK 3.0 billion in the quarter. The adjusted insurance sales result was DKK 648 million, up from DKK 520 million in Q2 last year and this represents our highest insurance service result ever.

We continue the strong underlying trend from Q1 with a significant year-on-year improvement in underlying claims. Weather-related claims were higher than we would normally expect for Q2, while major claims were below normal levels. Runoff gains at a level of around 3.5 percentage points were almost double of the normally expected level. Investment income was strong in Q2 with a net gain of DKK 215 million, related to the rebound in the market impacting equities as well as bonds in a positive direction. Finally, other income and expenses are significantly lower than last year. Primarily, we no longer have integration costs related to Codan following the completion of the integration.

And now let’s turn to Slide 5. As I mentioned before, the group delivered the highest insurance service result ever in Q2, adjusted for the Supreme Court ruling on workers’ compensation. The significant improvement was driven by strong underlying improvements as well as runoff gains when adjusting for the one-off charge.

In Personal Lines, the insurance result increased year-on-year by DKK 114 million to DKK 400 million. This was driven by continued growth, underlying improvements and runoff gains. The cost ratio increased marginally to 17.2%. In Commercial Lines, the adjusted insurance result was SEK 248 million, up from SEK 234 million last year. The increase was driven by a combination of significant underlying improvements, higher ordinary runoff gains than Q2 last year, and 30 basis points drop in the cost ratio.

On the other hand, weather claims and major claims were above the level in Q2 last year, while the decline in premiums had only a limited impact on earnings. Please turn to Slide 6. Insurance revenue grew by 1.7% in the quarter compared to 2.5% last quarter, reflecting effects from last year’s repricing fading and an increasingly soft market for workers’ compensation.

In personal lines, we continue to take market share while the effects of repricing are fading as expected. Therefore, I’m quite pleased that we delivered a growth rate of 5.2% year-on-year. In Commercial Lines, premiums declined by 2.3% percentage points year-on-year, reflecting our continued efforts with improving profitability in the soft market for workers compensation as well as reducing volatility among our larger customers. Adjusted for workers’ compensation and industrial customers, the commercial portfolio grew at a muted level of 1.0% in Q2. The growth of 1% in the broad commercial book is too low in my view. It calls for a bit of management attention, especially on the SME side.

Now moving to Slide 7 and the claims ratio. The Q2 claims ratio improved by nearly 4 percentage points year-on-year, adjusted for the Supreme Court ruling. This reflects strong underlying improvements in relatively high ordinary run-off gains, partly offset by elevated weather claims from the Storm Dave in April. In addition, the year-on-year comparison benefited from the nonrecurrence of reinstatement premiums recognized in Q2 2025.

The underlying claims ratio was 200 basis points lower year-on-year, driven by our profitability initiatives. The underlying improvements were particularly strong in commercial lines with 230 basis points improvements in underlying claims year-on-year, while personal lines improved by 190 basis points.

Overall, the discounting effect was flat year-on-year at 2.2 percentage points, which may come as a surprise to some of you. This reflects model changes within workers’ compensation that offset the positive impact from the higher interest rates in Q2 this year compared to last year. Looking ahead, I would expect the discounting to be at a level of about 2.2% with the current level of interest rates.

And now please turn to Slide 8. The combined ratio in Personal Lines improved to 75.5% from 81.6% last year. This was driven by lower underlying claims and runoff gains. On the other side, the cost ratio increased slightly to 17.2% in Q2. Premium growth remained strong at 5.2% despite the fading effects from repricing.

Please turn to Slide 9 for Commercial Lines. In Commercial Lines, we observed a reduction in the combined ratio to 81.8% in Q2 ’26, adjusted for the Supreme Court ruling compared to 83.2% in Q2 last year. The improvement was driven by significant improved underlying claims and the reinstatement fee for reinsurance in Q2 ’25 not being reported repeated. This was partly offset by somewhat higher large and weather-related claims, while the cost ratio decreased by 30 basis points year-on-year, providing additional support.

Now let’s move to Slide 11 and the investment result. You may have noticed that we began disclosing returns on our free portfolio in Q1 this year. This was in response to requests from many of you. In Q2, the investment result was a gain of DKK 250 million primarily driven by the free portfolio, which contributed to DKK 209 million, especially with equities benefiting from the general rebound in the market following the geopolitical turmoil experienced during Q1.

Let me also briefly touch on the Tier 2 issuance in June. We issued DKK 900 million Tier 2 bonds at a spread of 140 basis points, slightly below the spread on the maturing Tier 2. The part not already tendered DKK 366 million. We’ll have first call in October this year.

Finally, let’s turn to Slide 13 and our updated guidance. We’re revising our guidance for the insurance services result in ’26 upwards by DKK 100 million to DKK 1.2 billion to DKK 1.4 billion, excluding run-off gains in second half of ’26. This reflects the strong underlying performance in Q2 as well as one-off gains. Looking ahead, we continue to expect runoff gains of around 2%.

The new guidance corresponds to DKK 1.9 million to DKK 2.1 million in insurance service results adjusted for the DKK 700 million one-off charge related to the Supreme Court ruling on workers’ compensation. We continue to expect a cost ratio of around 17% for ’26. The combined ratio, excluding the one-off result in H2 is expected to be 88 to 90 in corresponding to 82.5% to 84.5% when adjusted for the impact of the Supreme Court ruling, an improvement of 100 basis points.

Following the strong result we had in Q2, as a result, guidance for profit before other income and expenses is upgraded by DKK 200 million to DKK 1.45 billion to DKK 1.65 billion or DKK 2.15 billion to DKK 2.35 billion adjusted for the Supreme Court ruling. Other income and expenses remain unchanged and guided at an expense of DKK 0.5 billion for ’26.

And with this, I conclude our presentation and hand over the word to our moderator. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Mathias Nielsen with Nordea.

Mathias Nielsen   Nordea Markets

Congratulations on the strong development in the underlying claims ratio this quarter. So my question is a bit about like how we should think about that in the coming quarters and also in the context of your ’28 target, it seems like you’re quite strong, quite off to a strong start, like how do you think about the stochasticity and other things with the development you have made both in Q1 and Q2 now on this. So maybe a few comments on that for the coming quarters. And then we can take my second question after that.

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes. Thank you, Mathias. I can give some flavor to that. That a bit of different nuances going through private, personal lines and commercial lines separately. But if you want sort of the very big picture, we have some slight pricing overhang to name one thing. We have also a very slight synergy overhang also remaining. Then we also have some support from reassurance as we have talked about before, being highest in commercial lines, but around 0.5% or so on average for the group percent.

So if you sort of total that up, that adds up to around a percentage point or so, plus minus and then we have around the percentage points, which I would also consider to some degree, it’s stochastic this quarter of improvements, which mainly are related to property-related lines, actually both in our commercial and private lines book.

So if we look at that going forward, the guidance we started for the year, and this point actually stands. We have a base expectation of around, let’s say, 100 basis points improvements in the coming quarters. All else equal, that would be — if you have — if that holds, then that would come to around 1.5 percentage points for the full year. So that’s sort of the rough guidance for that.

Mathias Nielsen   Nordea Markets

Okay. So around 100 basis points for the coming quarters. Is that like fading off to like bigger in Q3 than Q4? Is that how we should expect it as pricing came into trading? Or is there any — or is that already the [indiscernible] budget?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes, I think the composition will be different because we’ve had, as I talked about, a slight repricing, we’ve had some synergies still, but that will fade and disappear completely. And then what we’ll get on the other hand will be the first part of our strategic initiative coming through. And to name the main ones coming would be one is the consolidation of our data centers, which we have just implemented.

Then we have the work we’re doing within our claims area, what we call smart repairs related to the motor area. And then the final one, procurement, especially within buildings for the claims area, those 3 would add up to something like, let’s say, DKK 15 million — roughly DKK 50 million per quarter roughly evenly divided between the 3. So that’s sort of — that will sort of start ticking in as the synergy and prices overhang go out, thereby getting back to the approximately 1 percentage points in total.

Mathias Nielsen   Nordea Markets

Okay. That was very clear. Then my second question is — you almost sound quite bearish on the commercial line growth. But if you look on a Q-on-Q basis, like you’re up 2.2%, like — is that like the pace that we should expect in the coming quarters instead of like — the 1st of January revenue that’s kind of behind us like that was soft, but that’s how it is. And we know that already.

But like when you look on a Q-on-Q basis, the growth is actually quite fine. Is that also how we should expect it to be in Q3 and Q4 that the Q-on-Q growth is one good question. How should we think about that?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

I think the growth — the vicinity of the growth we’re seeing now is more or less, I think, a good status starting for what we would expect also in the coming year and a year-on-year growth of around a total decrease of just above 2%, I think, is a good starting point for the expectations also in the coming quarters. We do have some of the commercial book renewing 110, but I think it will take — we’ll have to go into the next year for us to really see a different trend in the total commercial lines premiums.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Asbjørn Mørk with Danske Bank.

Asbjørn Mørk   Danske Bank A/S

It’s actually a bit of a follow-up from one of the previous questions. Back on your guidance for the full year. Just trying to understand the journey that we’ve been on. So we got the Q1 numbers. You raised the guidance of DKK 150 million. Obviously, some of it was realized run-off gains, but still — then we have the same day, the adjustment on the back of the workers’ compensation case.

That was a full DKK 700 million clean cut. And then I’m just today, looking at the underlying trends that you print, both for Q1 and Q2, you’re listing your guidance by DKK 100 million, essentially the runoff gains. But I do hear what you say in terms of the stochastic elements in, I guess, both Q1 and Q2, but still to me, it seems like there is also an underlying improvement within those 200 basis points that would be — that wouldn’t explain the full difference from 100 basis points to 200 basis points. Just really trying to understand, I know there’s a rounding element as well in your guidance.

But just trying to understand if you see this purely as stochastic or if there is some sort of underlying still improving more than you expected also with the communication that you have? And I guess, going forward, the improvement into next year now that we are ahead of the plan for this year, how should we look at that improvement as a starting point is a more ambitious one, so to speak?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes. Well, let me start going through the current year, to begin with, I think — I mean, as we also stated, it is — it has to do with 2 things, as you also say, it’s sort of very rough sort of numbers. We have some moving parts with large claims, a bit below normal. We have weather claims, a bit above. So things are sort of moving around.

The main things driving the upgrade would be our underlying loss ratio and the major one being our adjusted, so to say, the prior year gains. And I think if you look at it mechanically, also given what I’m saying around a base expectation of around 100 basis points in the underlying loss ratio, maybe having, let’s say, just below that in a stochastic element, if you add up the math, you might — you could do the argument that 100 is maybe slightly conservative. I think — but we’ve chosen to stick with that. But I mean, mechanically, you might have an argument that we could also have gone a bit higher if we had chosen to. Sorry, I’m just saying it is that — does that make sense, Asbjørn?

Asbjørn Mørk   Danske Bank A/S

Yes. I mean, I guess, it’s also difficult with the round of numbers to get the exact signs of this, and of course, it’s a guidance, so I do get that. Which is more that if we get the said 100 basis points for Q3 and Q4, I guess your full year improvement is going to be 170 basis points or something like that, right?

So those extra 70 basis points, do you see that as a headwind for next year? So if you print 50 basis points improvement next year in your original plan, would you actually print 20 basis points deterioration to your underlying claims ratio next year?

Mads Thinggaard   Head of Investor Relations

Hi Asbjørn, Mads here. I think — I mean, you are seeing from a mechanical point of view, you are right because we are thinking it a bit like 150 basis points of underlying improvement then for this year, where we look at it from — at this point and with 50 basis points being stochastic.

And then you’re right that we — at our Capital Markets Day, we pointed to 50 basis points underlying improvement per year as kind of the structural thing from our strategy initiatives. So mechanically, that would mean having 50 structurally next year would be flat underlying, but we always strive to make a good underlying progress. So we would still believe that we could report at least a positive development in the underlying loss virtue next year.

Asbjørn Mørk   Danske Bank A/S

All right. And then final question from my side. I know you’re not sitting with the actual cases yourself. But do you have any sort of — have you seen anything or heard anything on the back of the Supreme Court ruling in terms of number of cases or if the things — if your sort of estimate is still on the conservative side? Any news on this front?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

No, actually, we haven’t received any claims being sort of say, reinitiated, which were already fully determined. So we’ve seen nothing and we have no — in actuality, no news yet, which is also what we would have expected at this point in time.

Operator

Your next question comes from Martin Birk with SEB.

Martin Birk   SEB

Thank you so much. Perhaps, and just on your initial comments about management actions in your commercial area regarding the 1% premium growth, underlying premium growth this quarter that you’re not satisfied with, could you please elaborate on that? And then beyond the press that we have seen this quarter? And then in addition to that, I guess this workers’ comp has been — has been sort of has been blocking your premium growth in the commercial segment for now at least 3 quarters.

When do you expect this sort of headwind on workers’ comp to clear up and how much technical result is actually in it. And then maybe a last question on premium growth, while we’re at it. I mean, private lines continues to do very well. What kind of outlook do you see for private premium growth going forward?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Let me try to go through that. Starting with the commercial area. We have the 1% you mentioned for — it’s not really a segment as such, but it does give an indication of, let’s say, it is an indication of what the broader-based commercial book is doing on average. Obviously, there are also moving parts within that. Some parts are going very well. Some parts are a bit was sluggish. But I think the — the overall message here is that on sort of — as an ambition, we would like and we would also expect to be able to grow more than 1% given the indexation we have right now in commercial lines.

So — and with the management actions, I would say, I think we’ve had a very successful run just to state that within Commercial Lines. We’ve managed over the last few years and also in the last quarters, we’ve continuously brought down volatility, and we’ve improved profitability. And that has been successfully done by the previous management also by Lorne, who’s been the head of that for the last few years. So I think when we now say this, we did an agreement with Lorne, also a mutual agreement.

And this is more about saying that where we are right now, we feel that new eyes are needed maybe to succeed a bit better with the growth, within the areas we want to grow profitably. So I think that was the management part. Then the workers’ compensation, sorry.

Martin Birk   SEB

And just to follow up on that management. I mean, what kind of levers can you pull to restore this growth without compromising our profitability. Do you see any pockets where you are — were there any low-hanging fruits that hasn’t been picked yet? Or how should we view this?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Well, I’m not saying — I don’t think — obviously, I believe that we can do better. I don’t think it’s about price only within this area. It’s about becoming even better at also translating the value proposition we have and the experience we have as a very experienced Danish commercial lines insurer with a full — and sole focus on the Danish market, putting that into play and maybe being even better to put it into play for the smaller, let’s say, the mid-sized small companies, not the very small, but the midsized small companies.

We also talked about that on our strategy in the CMD, which was a growth area. So that’s just to say — and I don’t — and I think there are a lot of things we can do to continuously improve that value proposition. So we become even more relevant for both the customers we have and the customers we want to have. So I think that’s at least giving some flavor on that.

So moving on to workers’ compensation. When will the headwinds dissipate in terms — as I heard the question, it was related to the pricing, I think it’s very difficult in honestly, to fully predict. We are in a market with other players and some of those players either they have a completely different view on the risk or they have different tactics around what they’re willing to do than we are.

So we’ll have to see how it goes. I can’t give you any clear indication. I think it’s obviously going to be interesting to see what will happen after the Supreme Court ruling sort of gets settled in the market also as one thing, what will people do there, but I can’t give you any clear prediction. We’ll have to see as we go along. I can just say that we will continue to demand that our business is profitable also within workers’ compensation.

Martin Birk   SEB

And the premiums that are leaving, do you have any at what kind of —

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

At least especially within the large commercial segment, it is almost no technical result, which is leaving those premiums. At least — and especially if you’re looking at the levels we would be needing to underwrite at that would be, in some cases, become loss giving as an alternative scenario. So — and then for — yes, then there was premiums in private lines — personal lines what to expect there? Could you just repeat it? What was the specific —

Martin Birk   SEB

I mean you do have this — you have — in your private lines, I guess you still have this funny dynamics that you still have a provision franchise, which is still steaming ahead at full bottle, right? And sort of those growth rates have, of course, been high for a while. They’re still high, and how — I guess my question is, should we expect this sort of mid-single digit to go on for also the coming year or years, so to speak?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Well, I mean, at least when — in the market we’re in right now with the trends we’re seeing and the performance we’re seeing with our banking partners, we have no reason to expect that to dissipate in the coming quarters. If we go further on that, it’s always a question of how does the market overall develop. I think it becomes a bit more tricky to predict. But at least for now, I think I’ll state that the momentum we see for now, we expect to continue for now.

Operator

Your next question comes from Alessia Magni with Barclays.

Alessia Magni   Barclays Bank

Two from my side. One is around the workers’ comp pricing. And I’d like to know what’s — how do you think pricing in the business line will evolve after the ruling and what level of price increases do you think is needed for the industry to compensate the higher claim burden. And more broadly, can you talk about your expectation on pricing and volume evolution from here at the group level or if it is split by customer commercial?

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes. Starting with workers’ compensation. If we look at the Supreme Court ruling on the margin, so to say, that does have — it does impact our expected claims in an upward direction for the same business going forward. We’re looking at — we’re still doing the analysis on how much we feel exactly is needed to mitigate for that.

So on an overall, I would expect the market to have the same in terms of trend, viewpoint on higher premiums being needed. How much the premiums will in actuality in the market, so to say, be impacted. I think it’s a more difficult question to answer. For one thing, it does — yes, is it logically depends on what the different players will do — and I just came back from answering questions, but we’ve seen historically, recently, some players be, in my view point, quite irrational about pricing. And what will they do with this event remains to be seen.

So honestly, I can’t — I don’t have a clear viewpoint. I think that’s what everybody is very keen on experiencing and seeing what will happen with that. But I can say that we are looking into it and the trend, obviously, all else equal, is for higher premiums given that event. More broadly, I think what we would expect to see in the coming years is that if you look at our group in total, I just meant — we just talked about private lines.

I think there’s no — for now, we see that momentum continuing. We’re able to take market shares particularly from our strong bank partnerships. So that trend, I think, will — is what we expect for now to continue. So overall, having some base indexation of around 2% and then some added market shares on top of that 2% to 3%, maybe even a bit more if we do well, but something around the levels we’re seeing now. And I think for commercial lines in a broad sort of sense, we’ll have to see with workers’ compensation.

Again, I think it’s difficult to predict where that will end up exactly, but in sort of broad sense, I think we have no ambition — we never guide for growth. We don’t have an ambition to grow just to grow. But I would be very interested to see our ability to grow, especially within the segments we choose to grow come a bit up.

So something I think I would be very satisfied if we can continue in an overall commercial book growing with the market but improving profitability, bringing down volatility, still having that discipline but also beneath there having some growth come in on top of the indexation within the segments we choose to grow, such as agriculture, as we have seen actually quite strong growth and also within the general small to medium size, seeing some growth pick up there, then I will be very satisfied with that.

Alessia Magni   Barclays Bank

One follow-up, sorry, on the first question. So from your side, from what you were saying in your analysis and investigation, I mean, are we talking about the price increases of single digit, double digit? I mean, do you have any indication that you can share, that would be helpful.

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes. I understand the question and the interest on this topic, but we are still looking into that and arriving at our final conclusion. So it’s too soon for us to give that indication.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Carl Lofthagen with Berenberg.

Carl Lofthagen   Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG

The first relates to some press speculation that your distribution partners see markets potentially looking for a new insurance partner. Just wanted to check if there’s — is there any validity to do anything you can comment there?

And then the second is just on the arbitration case with Gard. I mean, I guess, I appreciate it’s very early days, but could you provide a little bit of color just on time line for how this one to get some clarity? And also, why do you think the claims are unfounded? Any color there would be appreciated.

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

I’ll start with distribution. I think what you are adhering to is the press coverage of our long-standing partner or partners within the now [ Luban ] Group looking into what the best solution for that — for the insurance partnerships will be.

And the only thing I can say there is that we’re very happy with the partnerships we have with all the banks in the [indiscernible] group. They’ve been long-standing with [indiscernible] and also with [indiscernible], we had a very successful recent onboarding of [indiscernible]. We feel we have a strong position on this in the Danish market, and we are obviously anticipating in that process with [indiscernible]. But I think any questions to that process or where they see how that time line or other considerations, I think I’ll have to refer to [indiscernible].

Then the second question was around the Gard arbitration. I’ll try to give some sort of some clarity on how the time line is. And so now we have this arbitration, which was initiated by — and I think as we’ve talked about, it will — the process will basically be a process where we get — they will send a reply, then we will send a reply to that. And then there’ll be some interactions.

And the final clarity, as I understand, could be somewhere around — on the other side of summer break next year in ’27. And I don’t — I can’t give any guarantees for that. That’s sort of what I hear could be a realistic time line. And then just to give an update on what’s happened — I mean, what just happened is that we got the first sort of — I think it’s actually the second.

We got a new reply from Gard, we just received. And we simply haven’t had time to go through that. We got it there in the weekend. So we haven’t — it hasn’t — we haven’t had time to form an opinion on that. So we’re going through that now, and we’ll be looking through to it. And then I think the realistic, as I said, process forward will be there will be a couple of more interactions on that, and then we’ll see how it goes in the end.

Operator

And we have another question from Mathias Nielsen with Nordea.

Mathias Nielsen   Nordea Markets

So sorry for a follow-up questions on the details and maybe a bit an early one, but on the underlying claims ratio improvement when you said 100 basis points just to make sure that we’re on the same line, is that the discounted or undiscounted one given the one-off things that you had in Q4 last year, I think that actually matters a bit on the discounting in the commercial line. So maybe if you could — just to clarify which one we are talking.

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

I’m talking on an undiscounted basis.

Operator

Okay. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Andreas Ruben Madsen for closing remarks.

Andreas Madsen   CEO & Member of Executive Board

Thank you. Well, I have nothing really to add at this point. So thanks a lot all of you for calling in, and I hope you all have a great summer.

Operator

And that concludes today’s call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.